[Asrg] A paper/project worth considering (found it!)
Barry Shein
bzs at world.std.com
Wed Dec 24 17:10:37 PST 2008
On December 24, 2008 at 12:52 meta at pobox.com (mathew) wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 15:45, Barry Shein wrote:
> > I'd love to hear from some spammers on some of this, like specifically
> > how the introduction of certain anti-spam technologies actually
> > affected their business (as it were.)
> >
> > That's something really missing in all of this discussion, any input
> > from (perhaps former) spammers.
>
> I can't think of many people it would be more pointless to seek
> opinion from, than those who we *know* lie habitually and steal from
> others for a living. Psychotics who don't respond to medication,
> perhaps?
They may be crazy, but they got YOU runnin' on a treadmill, and a
billion others.
After many months of vicious discrediting and back and forth, for some
reason I spent some time on this 15 years ago, I once took a bunch of
holocaust deniers out to dinner.
It was actually quite enlightening.
Like, I found out most didn't believe a word they were saying, one
just had a grudge against some ex's jewish divorce lawyer or similar
nonsense, another got a kick out of getting a rise out of people and
was willing to work hard at it, etc. Some were quite obviously crazy,
and I don't mean that in the schoolyard sense, more in the clinical
sense, crazy, really, barely on the outside.
OTOH I have spoken on the phone to some famous deniers, some were
downright spooky is all I can say. One guy was playing a game where
he'd put out outrageous stuff to bait people, newspapers into a libel
lawsuit and he and a lawyer friend would shake them down for a quick
$100K or thereabouts to settle out of court.
Not everything is what it appears. Actual information is more useful
than armchair bluster.
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