[Asrg] FeedBack loops

Jose Celestino japc at co.sapo.pt
Tue Nov 11 18:40:10 PST 2008


Words by Franck Martin [Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:04:31AM +1200]:
> Well a bit of background. 
> 
> Is the ARF standard well accepted, I see AOL and a couple use them. I see also that hiding the user that reports the spam may not allow for the recipient of the report to act correctly. 
> 

I don't recall the specs but yes, it should be at least interesting to
have a uniq id, unrelated to the real reporting user, so that a
complaint can be tracked. Moreover it could be used to identify distinct
reports of the same spam/abuse if you, on the report receiving end of
ARF, decide to do automatic spam db feeding or blocking smtp-auth users,
for instance.

> Are there any tools/library available around ARF, to 1) create these reports 2) parse/process them 
> 
> Any chance to have these tools build in in major MTAs ? Does it make sense? 
> 

No. This should be processed on the LDA/MUA I guess.

> Could they be an after the fact fbl? let say I want to know if my email got delivered, query an mta, supplying some data like domain/sender IP, and the mta sends me any report over last few hours.. 
> 
> I think that's all to start a discussion 
> 
> Sorry for being a bit new in this field 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk at returnpath.net> 
> To: "Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF" <asrg at irtf.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 November, 2008 9:53:42 AM (GMT+1200) Auto-Detected 
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] FeedBack loops 
> 
> On 11/11/2008 14:38, "Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Replying to myself.. 
> > 
> > I see John Levine is on it, so all seems under control. 
> 
> Yep, the future of that draft is being discussed on other IETF lists. 
> 
> > But I'm curious to know more on the feedback loops. 
> 
> What would you like to know? 
> 
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