[Asrg] FeedBack loops

Barry Shein bzs at world.std.com
Thu Nov 13 14:52:49 PST 2008


On November 13, 2008 at 14:31 steve at blighty.com (Steve Atkins) wrote:
 > 
 > On Nov 13, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
 > 
 > > No this was not what I was talking about.
 > >
 > > We were talking about: "when the user click spam, the system does  
 > > not send a spam report but an unsubscribe if the mail contains the  
 > > right headers and the unsubscribe is successful"
 > 
 > It's been discussed. The critical flaw with the idea is blindingly  
 > obvious if
 > you think about it for a second, though.

All I can come up with is it could be easily defrauded, tho some care
in verifying the source would seem to mostly avoid that problem. It's
not like we're dealing with the family jewels.

I suppose that might not be the spam button clicker's intent.

One gray area that occurs (in practice!) is someone sends a spam-ish,
or even really spam, message to a mailing list and people hit the spam
button sending the complaint to AOL et al.

By "spam-ish" I mean a msg that one can understand on quick skim
may've looked like spam ("ONLY FOUR DAYS LEFT TO BUY YOUR IRTG
T-SHIRTS!") but really isn't spam in the usual sense.

And they're complaining to their own ISP (e.g., AOL) rather than
perhaps the list manager or list ISP in some cases, say where they
know it's about IRTG T-Shirts and what IRTG is but don't want that in
their list discussion so they hit SPAM, but that's not really germaine
to the original comment.

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