On 16/01/2009 03:50, "John Levine" <johnl at taugh.com> wrote: > Perhaps it's time to amend the ASRG charter to exclude easily > visualized but actually hypothetical threats. If you disagree that > they're hypothetical, first you have to go get real data to support > your claim. +1 However, I wouldn't mind discussion about /how/ to get real data....