<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Without forgetting what unclever things someone could do with sender identities. But I guess we are here to provide tools and leave each country the choice of using these tools for the pursuit of freedom or totalitarianism.<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "John Levine" <asrg@johnlevine.com><br>To: asrg@ietf.org<br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008 10:35:10 AM (GMT+1200) Auto-Detected<br>Subject: Re: [Asrg] actual possible improvements, was Email Postage<br><br>>So, before worrying about paying to send, it makes more sense to me<br>>to implement proving who the sender is first. This leads to<br>>identifying "bad senders" first, which can be used to determine if<br>>they are actual spammers are victims, and if victims, to get their<br>>systems cleaned up, and if they persist in not cleaning up, then in<br>>getting them booted from the ISP (or SMTP provider if a business,<br>>etc.), blacklisted and/or turned over to authorities as a provable<br>>spammer.<br><br>Sounds good to me.<br><br>I still think there's some interesting research to be done about what<br>you'd do with reliable sender identities. It's easy enough to<br>whitelist mail from people you already know, but is there anything<br>clever one might do with an identity that you can trust to be stable<br>but you know nothing else about?<br><br>R's,<br>John<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Asrg mailing list<br>Asrg@irtf.org<br>https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg<br></div></body></html>