[rrg] Maybe it's not "either-or": Considering ahost/network-based solution pair
Flinck, Hannu (NSN - FI/Espoo)
hannu.flinck at nsn.com
Thu Nov 27 08:01:55 PST 2008
Hello Christian
Could you please remind us again where the multi-path TCP draft is? I am
curious to know how the paths through the network are discovered and
made exclusive.
Best regards
Hannu
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rrg-bounces at irtf.org [mailto:rrg-bounces at irtf.org] On
>Behalf Of ext Christian Vogt
>Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 15:35
>To: Christopher Morrow
>Cc: Routing Research Group Mailing List; Noel Chiappa
>Subject: Re: [rrg] Maybe it's not "either-or": Considering
>ahost/network-based solution pair
>
>
>> I saw it as: The pain we see is in the network, host solutions don't
>> (as of yet) provide the control required for large-scale TE issues
>> [...]
>
>Hi Chris -
>
>On the other hand, RRG does have several host-based
>multi-homing solutions that enable the network to exercise
>traffic engineering:
>Six/One gives the network explicit traffic engineering control
>through address prefix rewrites in routers. Multi-path TCP
>gives the network an implicit means for traffic engineering
>through bandwidth limits and packet loss. And both Six/One
>and multi-path TCP can be used within the framework of a
>hostname-oriented network protocol stack.
>
>The only argument that can be brought up against host-based
>multi-homing is that it becomes effective only if a
>considerable portion of all hosts supports it. Even if
>networks can ensure that local hosts do support multi-homing,
>there is still a dependency on remote hosts supporting it as
>well. However, the dependency on the remote side does exist
>also for network-based multi-homing. Like host-based
>multi-homing, network-based multi-homing does require support
>on both sides of a connection.
>Consequently, host-based multi-homing is IMO deployment-wise
>just as feasible as network-based multi-homing. And
>technically, host-based multi-homing is IMO even preferable
>for two reasons: (a) It is inherently more robust because it
>does not add new single points of failure. (b) It is more
>reliable because only hosts can monitor the availability of
>complete end-to-end paths.
>
>FWIW: The above considerations apply only to RRG's goal of
>enabling multi-homing. They do NOT apply to RRG's second goal
>of eliminating renumbering. Eliminating renumbering entirely
>is possible only with a network-based solution. And unlike
>enabling multi-homing, eliminating renumbering is achievable
>with only unilateral support: Six/One Router Unilateral mode
>and NAT66 are example solutions. Since the first goal can IMO
>best be solved in hosts, whereas the second goal is achievable
>only with a network-based solution, I was suggesting the dual
>approach consisting of a host-based solution plus a
>network-based solution.
>
>- Christian
>
>
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