[SAM] SAM RG next steps

Matthias Waehlisch waehlisch at ieee.org
Thu Jan 3 17:56:37 EST 2008


Hi John,

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, John Buford wrote:

> I believe the charter stipulates that the RG works on: 1) problem 
> statement, 2) requirements/driving scenarios, 3) framework, 4) 
> evaluation through implementation, analysis or simulation.

[...]

> Question: Should the RG try to push a problem statement / requriements / 
> use cases into an informational RFC? If not, then these documents will 
> probably stay in the expired state.
> 
  I think yes. It doesn't seem obvious why an Internet Draft should go to 
expire: Is the topic sufficiently discussed or is the draft insufficient 
... And a comprehensive problem statement gives a good starting point for 
further work.

[...]
> In addition, in the P2P-SIP WG there is a proposal for a universal P2P 
> overlay protocol. (universal in that it is meant to support the 
> operations needed by several multi-hop structured overlays).
> 
> So, the direction I have in mind for the SAM Framework involves: 
> extended AMT gateways, ALM on P2P overlay, use of a universal P2P 
> overlay protocol.  Then, any researcher could plug their own ALM 
> algorithm into this and select their own P2P overlay algorithm as well.  
> Meanwhile, the AMT integration means that native multicast and ALM can 
> co-exist.
> 
  What does a universal P2P overlay protocol mean in detail? Is it similar 
to the common API by Dabek et al. ("Towards a Common API for Structured 
Peer-to-Peer Overlays", 2003)?

  Btw: It makes sense to have an interface definition between ALM 'stack' 
and application. But this should be a part of a common group membership 
framework maybe borrowed from IGMP/MLD. That could be also an outcome of 
SAM RG.

> That's the general idea.  We could either build this in PlanetLab or 
> devise a simulation environment so that multiple research groups can 
> share it.
> 
  Or in both - like the approach in OverSim which allows to incorporate 
real-world traffic into the simulator.

Cheers
  matthias

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